Discussion is key to learning.
In a screen-bound world, face-to-face conversation is hard.
But it’s important—and teachable.
We help schools teach it.
The R.E.A.L.® approach has been featured by:

Our Story
As a teacher and school leader, Liza Garonzik realized that her Gen-Z and Alpha students struggled to communicate live, in-person, and across any kind of difference.
Liza knew that these skills were high stakes for learning and life! So, she spent a decade working with experts, teachers, and researchers to develop R.E.A.L.®: the first research-based method for teaching face-to-face discussion skills.
Today, R.E.A.L.® has several programs for teaching discussion skills in K-12 schools. The student results speak for themselves!
But the secret ingredient behind our success? Our school partnership model. We don’t just sell a program. We partner with each school to design and implement a strategy that will really work — for kids, for teachers, and for the community.
Our Story
As a teacher and school leader, Liza Garonzik realized that her Gen-Z and Alpha students struggled to communicate live, in-person, and across any kind of difference.

Liza knew that these skills were high stakes for learning and life! So, she spent a decade working with experts, teachers, and researchers to develop R.E.A.L.®: the first research-based method for teaching face-to-face discussion skills.
Today, R.E.A.L.® has several programs for teaching discussion skills in K-12 schools. The student results speak for themselves!
But the secret ingredient behind our success? Our school partnership model. We don’t just sell a program. We partner with each school to design and implement a strategy that will really work — for kids, for teachers, and for the community.
Featured School Partners
PROGRAM PREVIEW
R.E.A.L.® is a method for breaking the deeply human art of great discussion into teachable, assessable, transferable skills for students who would rather text than talk. R.E.A.L.® has programs for Gr. 2-10.
98%
of teachers would recommend R.E.A.L.® to a colleague
96%
of students see R.E.A.L. skills as useful beyond the classroom
98%
of students report more confidence in speaking up in discussion
96%
of students listen more actively to their peers
94%
of students show a growth mindset towards discussion
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The top five words teachers use to describe R.E.A.L. PD :
Practical, Innovative, Fun/Funny, Motivating, Helpful